#9 – From Betrayal to Bravery: Nami’s Journey of Self-Discovery

Steven

When Nami first appears in One Piece, let’s be honest, she’s a bit of a mystery, isn’t she? It’s that classic femme fatale entrance—she’s confident, cunning, and, yeah, kind of dangerous. But this allure is, I think, a mask, you know? Beneath her sharp wit and clever schemes, there's something deeper, something more vulnerable. And and that’s what makes her such a fascinating addition to the crew.

Steven

Now, what I love here is how Nami completely flips our expectations. She’s introduced as someone who seems—well, selfish, maybe even a little manipulative. But then, as her story unraveled, we started seeing these layers of strength, of purpose, and even sadness hidden beneath. It’s like peeling back the skin of an orange, where what’s underneath is so much more than what you first imagined.

Steven

This, I think, is something we encounter in real life all the time too. People are just, well, more complex than they seem. You meet someone and form an opinion based on how they talk, how they dress—those surface-level things—but those impressions aren’t the full story. They’re not. With Nami, it’s not just about the strength she shows early on, but the vulnerability and dreams that she guards so closely.

Steven

I remember when I started in my current job, I had this tendency to, uh, kind of size people up, especially colleagues. Like, based on their job titles or even just how they, you know, came across in meetings, I thought I knew who they were. But over time, I I began to see their stories, their real motivations, and it completely changed how I connected with them. It’s funny how much your perspective shifts when you stop judging and start understanding, right?

Steven

And that’s what this chapter—the introduction of Nami—is reminding us. It’s about pausing before placing someone in a box. Like, how many times have you met someone, assumed one thing about them, only to find out later you were way, way off? I think Nami’s story challenges us to dig deeper, to get curious about the people around us.

Steven

So, next time you meet someone new, try seeing past the surface. Instead of making snap judgments, ask yourself about their motivations. What has shaped them, what’s driving them forward? Because no one is as simple as their first impression. Nami’s story proves that, don’t you think?

Steven

One of the things that’s striking about Nami is how, from the get-go, she operates on this razor's edge between charm and cunning, right? She can size up a situation, figure out who holds the power, and then adapt seamlessly to fit her goals. It’s like watching someone play a high-stakes game of chess—every move calculated, every risk considered. She knows when to smile, when to bluff, and when to hold her cards close to her chest. It’s impressive. And and, honestly, it’s a little intimidating.

Steven

But here’s the thing: Nami’s not doing this because she’s inherently manipulative or because she enjoys deceiving people. No. Her actions come from necessity. She’s navigating this incredibly dangerous world, trying to survive in situations that most of us would find, well, overwhelming. The world she’s in has forced her to rely on her wits, to see through deception while sometimes leaning into it herself. It’s this survival instinct, really, that sharpens her charm into a weapon.

Steven

And that raises an interesting question, doesn’t it? Is what Nami does manipulation, or is it strategy? I mean, the line between the two can feel so blurry. On the surface, manipulation sounds like a bad thing—trickery, deceit. But in Nami’s case, you can see it’s not about malice. It’s about protecting herself, about ensuring she can make it to tomorrow. Nami’s story asks us to step back and consider not just the actions, but the motivations behind them. Sometimes, what looks like manipulation is actually just someone trying to survive a difficult reality.

Steven

I think about this a lot in my own life, you know? In my career, especially during negotiations, I’ve had to play the long game. You can’t always lay all your cards on the table. And and honestly, it’s not about tricking anyone—it’s about carefully measuring what you share, what you hold back, and when the right moment is to make your move. Timing, patience, observation—those are the real tools of strategy. It’s something Nami embodies so well. She reads people, constantly recalibrates, and makes her play when the odds are in her favor. There’s just something so... sharp about that kind of intelligence. It’s survival, yes, but it’s also brilliance.

Steven

It does make me wonder though—how many times in your own life have you needed to be strategic like that? Think about it. Maybe it wasn’t on a pirate ship, but maybe at work? Or in a complicated friendship? Have you ever had to use your wit, stay one step ahead, and act carefully to achieve something important? Were those actions misunderstood or, uh, maybe even judged by others? It’s not always easy to explain our motives in the moment, is it?

Steven

But here’s the takeaway: strategy doesn’t have to mean cold calculation. It doesn’t have to mean shutting off your emotions and becoming robotic. It’s about approaching challenges with clarity instead of knee-jerk reactions. Next time you’re faced with a difficult situation, try channeling a little bit of Nami’s mindset. Take a step back, look at the whole picture, and think—what’s the smartest move I can make here? Let logic and strategy guide you, even if emotions are pulling you in another direction. It’s not always easy, but it’s so, so worth it.

Steven

Nami’s past... it’s heavy, isn’t it? It casts this long shadow over everything she does. See, when you first peel back the layers of her story, what you find is a pain that’s rooted so deeply in betrayal. She was hurt by someone she trusted, someone who should’ve protected her. And and that kind of betrayal, well, it doesn’t just go away, does it? It leaves scars that stay with you, shaping how you see the world—and how you protect yourself from it.

Steven

For Nami, this pain becomes her armor. Her drive for wealth, her sharp independence—they’re shields. They’re ways to make sure no one can ever control her or hurt her like that again. But you know, the thing about armor is, while it protects you, it also weighs you down. It isolates you. Nami locks herself behind her strength, but it’s the kind of strength that comes from being afraid to trust again. It’s, well, survival mode. Have you ever felt that? Like, you’ve been so hurt before that the idea of letting anyone in again feels... impossible?

Steven

I mean, I can relate. There was a time in my life when I trusted someone professionally, really thought we were aligned, only for things to take a sharp turn. When that trust was broken, it hit hard—almost made me want to shut people out entirely. But, eventually, I realized that experience, as much as it hurt, was a lesson. It forced me to rebuild, but with stronger foundations. You know what I mean? Like, the hurt taught me how to choose better connections in the future.

Steven

That’s part of Nami’s journey too. She’s carrying this incredible pain, learning to live with it—but it’s not just about the pain itself. It’s about what you do with it. Healing isn’t linear, right? And and in Nami’s case, it’s a process of cutting through that fear, slowly allowing her walls to come down, brick by careful brick. It’s about realizing that there’s strength in trusting the right people again, even when it scares you.

Steven

So, here’s something to think about: have you ever been in Nami’s shoes? Maybe not exactly betrayed by a pirate crew, but still hurt in a way that changed how you trust people—how you even see the world? If you’ve faced that kind of pain, how did you handle it? Did you shut down, or were you able to start rebuilding trust? What I’ve learned is that no matter how strong your armor is, you don’t have to wear it forever. You really don’t. But letting it go—yeah, that’s the hard part.

Steven

If you’re working through something similar, let yourself take it one step at a time. Start by protecting your heart, sure, but don’t lock it away for good. Look for the people who prove themselves trustworthy. Share small pieces of yourself, and let trust grow from there. It’s okay to move slowly. Nami’s doing that too, whether she realizes it or not—her guarded strength giving way to something softer, something more open. But for now, her journey, like so many of ours, is still a work in progress.

Steven

When I think about Nami, one of the strongest threads in her story is this fierce, almost unshakable desire for freedom. It’s like every move she makes, every risk she takes, comes down to this one idea: control. She wants to be able to shape her own future, to never again feel trapped by circumstances out of her reach. And and honestly, who wouldn’t want that? That kind of drive—it’s something we all, at some point, can understand, right?

Steven

Her pursuit of wealth, whether it’s by charm or strategy—it’s not about greed. No, I don’t think so. It’s about survival. It’s about making sure she never has to depend on anyone who could betray her again. That kind of independence, that craving for control—it feels so human, doesn’t it? It’s not just Nami’s struggle, it’s ours too. Whether it’s about financial freedom, emotional independence, or even just the ability to make choices for yourself—we’ve all been in places where we just want to breathe without anyone holding us back.

Steven

But here’s the thing: freedom isn’t just about what’s happening on the outside. It’s not just about breaking free from constraints or having everything go your way. True freedom starts from within, doesn’t it? It’s about deciding for yourself how you’ll react, how you’ll think, even when the circumstances feel impossible to control. It’s that moment when you realize, okay, I might not be able to shift everything around me, but I can choose how I show up in it. It’s empowering, really.

Steven

I remember a time in my life when I felt trapped—like my career was moving in directions I didn’t really choose. It was frustrating, and for a while, I just let it happen, you know? But then I made a decision. I started taking small steps to steer things back into my hands—to say yes only to the things that aligned with what I wanted, and no to what didn’t. And and slowly, I started feeling lighter, more in control of my path. It wasn’t easy, but it was worth every effort.

Steven

So here’s a question for you. Where in your life do you feel like you’re not fully free? Is it your day-to-day routine? Maybe it’s a relationship or even just the expectations you feel from others. Whatever it is, think about what small steps you could take to regain a sense of control. It doesn’t have to be drastic—just something that moves you closer to who you want to be, where you wanna go.

Steven

And remember, it’s not about changing everything all at once. Start small. Focus on the choices you can make right now, the boundaries you can set, the habits you can tweak. Because every little action builds momentum. And like Nami, as you fight for your future, you might just find that freedom isn’t some distant place—it’s something you can carry within you, no matter where you are.

Steven

When we talk about redemption, Nami’s arc is one of the most beautiful examples in anime, isn’t it? I mean, starting out as this cunning, almost self-serving thief, she transforms in a way that feels both unexpected and, well, incredibly human. It’s in those moments of vulnerability—when she finally steps beyond the walls she’s built—that we see her true strength. Her selflessness, her courage—it takes center stage as she stops just fighting for herself and starts fighting for the crew.

Steven

The shift is so profound because at first, Nami is framed as this femme fatale, right? Someone you’re not sure you can trust. But then, as her story unfolds, you realize she was never just that trope. She’s more. So much more. Her redemption is rooted in taking risks—not just for her dream, but for the people she’s come to care about, despite the scars her past has left.

Steven

And it’s that idea of redemption that really speaks to all of us, doesn’t it? That no matter where we come from or the mistakes we’ve made, there’s always the potential to grow, to repair, to choose a better path. Nami’s actions reflect this so perfectly—she doesn’t let her mistakes define her. Instead, she uses them as stepping stones to become someone stronger, braver, more aligned with her values. I think that’s why her story resonates so much.

Steven

It reminds me of a time in my own life, honestly. I’ve had moments where I strayed from what felt like my true path—decisions I wasn’t proud of, relationships where I didn’t show up the way I wanted to. And and for a while, I let it weigh on me, you know? That guilt, that feeling that maybe I couldn’t turn it around. But over time, I realized something so important: redemption isn’t about erasing the past. It’s about learning from it, about choosing your actions today to write a better next chapter.

Steven

So here’s a question for you. Have you ever felt like you’ve strayed from your own path? Or maybe found yourself stuck in the roles you’ve played in the past? What did it take for you to find your way back—or better yet, to chart a new course entirely? Think about that for a second. Because, like Nami, our pasts don’t have to tether us. They can inform us, sure, but they don’t define what comes next. Not if we don’t let them.

Steven

And if you’re still searching for that sense of redemption in your life, start small. Think of one thing you can do today, just one action, that feels like a step toward who you want to be. It doesn’t need to be grand—it just needs to be honest. Because redemption is never about perfection. It’s about conviction, the willingness to keep trying, to start over as many times as it takes. And like Nami, every small act of courage will lead you closer to the person you’re meant to be.

Steven

When we first meet Nami, she’s such an enigma, isn’t she? There’s charm, there’s confidence, but above all, there’s that mask of indifference she wears so well. It’s like she’s always ten steps ahead, calculating every move, but never letting anyone in on what’s really going on behind those sharp, clever eyes. And and, honestly, that mask makes sense. It’s her shield, her way of protecting herself in a world that hasn’t exactly been kind to her.

Steven

But here’s where things get interesting. While that mask keeps her safe, it also locks her away. Nami might look like she’s in control, but we see moments—small cracks—where that facade starts to slip. Beneath it, there’s vulnerability, fear, even pain. And isn’t that such a human thing? We all wear masks at times, don’t we? Pretending we’re okay when we’re not, or putting on a brave face because we’re scared of what might happen if someone sees how we really feel.

Steven

I’ve caught myself doing it too. There was this period at work where I felt like I had to be perfect, always on top of everything, never showing any weakness. I thought it was what was expected of me, you know? But over time, I realized that all that pretending—it was exhausting. And and, more than that, it was isolating. The more I kept the mask up, the harder it was to connect with my team, to feel like we were even on the same page. Letting it down—it wasn’t easy, but it changed everything.

Steven

Look at Nami—not just the fierce and calculated exterior, but the girl underneath. She’s not the cold, all-business person she pretends to be. She cares, deeply, about the people around her. But showing that care, being vulnerable—it means taking a risk. That’s why her journey is so powerful. It’s not just about charm and cunning; it’s about learning when and where to let the walls come down, even a little.

Steven

So, here’s something to consider. Where in your life are you wearing a mask? Maybe it’s at work, or in a relationship, or even just in how you carry yourself day to day. What would it feel like to take it off, even for a moment? To let someone see the real you—the struggles, the fears, the things that make you feel vulnerable? It’s not easy, I know. But sometimes, the connections we’re craving the most can only happen when we put down our guard.

Steven

Start small, if you need to. Share one thing, just one, about how you’re really feeling. Or maybe ask for help where you’d normally pretend you’ve got it all handled. Those little steps—sharing a piece of your true self—they can make all the difference. And who knows? Maybe, like Nami, you’ll start to find that true strength isn’t about keeping people out—it’s about letting the right ones in.

Steven

Nami’s story—where she’s caught between two very different worlds—it’s such a relatable struggle, isn’t it? On the one hand, you’ve got her survival instincts, rooted so deeply in her past. She’s spent years looking out for herself, guarding her independence, because, well, in her world, showing vulnerability was dangerous. And and then, on the other hand, there’s the Straw Hat crew. They’re offering something she’s probably never experienced before—real camaraderie, trust, a sense of belonging. It’s this push and pull, between what she’s always known and what she’s starting to hope for, that makes her journey so compelling.

Steven

I think what’s fascinating is how this conflict isn’t just about the practical decisions Nami is making. It’s not just “Will I stay with the crew?” versus “Will I fend for myself?” No, it’s deeper than that. It’s about trust. It’s about whether she can let go of the fears her past has ingrained in her and actually believe that these people—Luffy, Zoro, the whole crew—won’t betray her when it matters most. Think about that—what does it take to let yourself believe in someone when everything you’ve experienced tells you not to? It’s terrifying, right? But also, maybe, just a little hopeful.

Steven

I see so much of that tension in my own life sometimes. Like, there have been moments where I had to decide between pushing forward with my own goals—my own plans—and stepping back to support the people around me. And you know, it’s not that one is right and the other is wrong. It’s just... complicated. Balancing personal ambition with loyalty to everyone else—it’s tricky. It really is. And and I think what makes it so hard is realizing that sometimes, to gain something bigger, you might have to let go of something that feels safe, maybe even essential.

Steven

And Nami—she’s right there in the middle of that. Her desire for freedom, for control, it’s still there. But as she spends more time with the crew, she starts to see that freedom doesn’t always mean being alone. Sometimes, it means leaning into others, letting yourself be part of something larger, something shared. But of course, that’s a terrifying leap to take, isn’t it? Letting go of control, allowing others to play a part in your journey—it’s such a risk.

Steven

So here’s my question for you. Have you ever been in that kind of situation? Where you wanted something so badly—something for yourself—but it clashed with what was best for the people close to you? Maybe a relationship, maybe your family. How did you handle it? Did you hold onto your goal, or did you find a way to compromise, to honor both what you needed and what they needed? I think those moments, as difficult as they are, end up shaping who we become. They teach us about priorities, about making space for complexity, right?

Steven

And that’s where growth really happens—when you stop seeing things as a choice between black and white, and instead find that balance between the two. Practice looking at both sides of the scale: your personal goals, sure, but also the relationships that help sustain you. It’s not about giving something up entirely. It’s about weaving those two pieces of yourself into something stronger, something whole. And I think Nami, in her own way, is starting to figure that out.

Steven

What stands out about Nami’s arc, especially at this point, is how she starts to shift—slowly, but meaningfully—from someone who’s only looking out for herself to someone who’s all in for the crew. And that change... it’s powerful. It’s not like she suddenly stops valuing her independence or her dreams, but she starts seeing this bigger picture, this idea that the bonds she’s forming with the crew aren’t a limitation—they’re a strength. And and, let’s be honest, that’s no small thing for someone like Nami.

Steven

You see, Nami’s been through so much—betrayal, loss, the weight of carrying her own survival. It would’ve been easy for her to stay in that mindset of “me against the world.” But instead, she starts to open up, right? She begins to realize that maybe, just maybe, she doesn’t have to face everything alone. And that’s such a relatable concept. I think we’ve all had moments where we’ve been so determined to handle everything by ourselves, to not rely on anyone because it feels safer that way. But eventually, you start seeing that strength doesn’t just come from what you can do alone—it’s also about who you can trust, who you can lean on.

Steven

This shift in her character... it’s a reminder of how growth often works. It’s never a straight line. It’s messy, it’s uncomfortable, and it forces you to confront all these long-held beliefs about what it means to be strong, doesn’t it? For Nami, it’s seeing that her independence, her drive—they don’t have to be sacrifices to trust others. Instead, they become part of this greater story, one where her strength is amplified by the people willing to stand beside her.

Steven

I can’t help but think about my own journey with this. Early in my career, I was convinced that success meant going it alone, proving I could handle everything without anyone’s help. And and for a while, yeah, that worked. But it was exhausting, you know? And ultimately, I hit this point where I realized that the moments I felt most fulfilled, most motivated, weren’t the moments I achieved something alone—they were the moments I shared those successes, those struggles, with others. It was the collaborations, the teamwork, the shared dreams that made the work feel worth it.

Steven

So, let me ask you—when was the last time you let yourself rely on someone else? Maybe it was a friend, a partner, a colleague? Did it feel like a risk? Or did it, in some way, make things lighter, more meaningful? I think we sometimes underestimate how much strength there is in letting people in, in building those connections, those shared struggles.

Steven

And if you’ve been holding onto this idea that you need to do it all on your own, consider this: what would it look like to take one small step toward collaboration? Maybe it’s asking for help with a project, or sharing an idea with someone you trust, or even just letting someone know you’re struggling. Those moments—they’re where the real growth happens. Like Nami, who’s slowly figuring out that she doesn’t lose strength by trusting others—she gains it.

Steven

There’s a moment in every story—a crossroads, you could call it—where a character makes a choice that changes everything. For Nami, that moment is when she decides to trust the Straw Hat crew. It’s not just her joining a group; it’s her deciding, after everything she’s been through, to take a leap of faith. And honestly, that’s huge. After a life defined by betrayal and survival, choosing to trust someone again? That’s not just brave—it’s transformative.

Steven

You see, Nami’s decision isn’t just about logistics or strategy. It’s about healing. It’s about saying, “Okay, despite all the walls I’ve built, despite everything telling me to stay guarded... I’m going to believe in these people.” And and, let’s face it, that’s easier said than done. Trust is hard. Especially when you’ve been hurt before. It’s like standing on the edge of a cliff, not knowing if the leap will lead to a soft landing or another painful fall.

Steven

What I think is so beautiful about this moment is how it reflects growth through vulnerability. Nami’s trusting the crew isn’t a sign of weakness—it’s a sign of strength. She’s choosing to believe that there’s a future beyond what her past has taught her. That maybe, just maybe, this crew is different. It’s the same trust that Luffy embodies so naturally, but for Nami, it’s a hard-won choice. And that choice—man, it’s powerful.

Steven

I’ll be honest, I’ve wrestled with this in my own life. There was a time when I found it so hard to trust others, especially in professional settings. I kept thinking, “No one’s going to care about this as much as I do,” or “What if they let me down?” But as I started stepping into leadership roles, I realized something crucial. Trust isn’t just about letting go of control—it’s about making space for others to step up, for possibilities to emerge that you couldn’t create on your own. And and let me tell you, it’s scary at first, but it changes everything.

Steven

So, here’s a question for you: Can you think of a time when you chose to trust someone again after being hurt or let down? How did that feel? And did it reshape how you saw that person—or maybe, even yourself? For me, those moments are never easy. But they’re the ones that teach us the most about connection, about growth.

Steven

If you’re struggling with trust, start small. Share just a little more than you usually would. Give someone the chance to show you they can be trustworthy. Trust doesn’t have to be this huge, all-or-nothing thing—it can grow, step by step. And who knows? Like Nami, you might just find that letting down your guard can open the door to something so much bigger, so much better than you ever expected.

Steven

When I think about Nami’s journey, this chapter feels like a turning point—it’s where her story shifts from being about survival to being about something much greater. For so long, her motivations were centered on her own needs—wealth, freedom, control. And and, honestly, who could blame her? For someone who’s endured as much as she has, self-preservation makes sense. But now, we start to see her stepping into a new role, one that’s about belonging and shared purpose.

Steven

What’s fascinating is how Nami’s priorities begin to evolve. She’s no longer just chasing her personal goals—she’s embracing the idea that the true treasure isn’t about gold or power but about the bonds she’s forming with her crew. It’s about the journey they’re all on together, about fighting for something bigger than herself. And doesn’t that resonate with all of us, in some way? It’s this shift, from ‘me’ to ‘we,’ that feels so transformative.

Steven

It reminds me of a time in my own life when I had to redefine what success meant to me. For years, I was so focused on individual achievements—things I could measure, things I could say I did on my own. But over time, I started to realize that the moments that really stuck with me weren’t solo victories. They were shared experiences—working toward a common goal, celebrating with others who’d walked the path with me. It changed how I saw everything, like success wasn’t just about me anymore—it was about us.

Steven

And here’s the thing: embracing that shift isn’t easy. It takes vulnerability to let others in, to trust that they’ll walk alongside you. For Nami, joining the Straw Hat crew isn’t just a practical decision—it’s an emotional leap. She’s choosing to trust, to believe that this crew, this dream they share, is worth risking her guard for. That’s no small feat, especially for someone whose survival has always depended on staying independent. It’s such a brave step, don’t you think?

Steven

So, let me ask you this: are there areas in your life where you’re still holding onto the lone-wolf mindset? Maybe it’s at work, maybe in a friendship or a project you’re working on. How might things change if you started to lean into collaboration, to see what’s possible when you let others join you in your dreams? I know it’s not always easy. Trusting people, especially with something that matters deeply to you, feels risky—but sometimes, it’s that risk that leads to something truly extraordinary.

Steven

Start by looking for little ways to share the load. Maybe it’s a conversation with a friend, getting their input on a problem you’ve been stuck on. Or maybe it’s finding a way to contribute to someone else’s dream, seeing how it feels to build something together. Because, like Nami’s journey with the crew, those shared efforts have the potential to turn individual goals into a collective vision—one that’s richer and more meaningful than anything you could ever achieve alone.

Steven

Nami’s journey—wow, where do we even begin with this? It’s one of those stories that captures so many layers of what it means to heal, to grow, and to trust again. And honestly, it just hits differently, doesn’t it? You look back at where she started—guarded, surviving, focused only on her own path—and then you see where she’s headed now. It’s powerful. She shows us that growth isn’t this straight line where everything suddenly makes sense. No, it’s messy, it’s full of doubts, and it requires courage at every turn—courage to make mistakes, to let people in, and to try again even when it’s terrifying.

Steven

And and let’s talk about trust for a second, because I think that’s the heart of Nami’s story. This idea that trust isn’t something you just decide one day to give—it’s earned, built, sometimes piece by piece, like a puzzle. When you’ve been hurt before, when betrayal feels like it’s left a mark, rebuilding that trust—whether it’s in others or even in yourself—it can feel impossible. And yet, Nami shows us it’s not. It’s tough, yes, but not impossible.

Steven

I want you to think about this in your own life. Have there been moments where you found yourself at a crossroads, like Nami? Moments where pain or hardship forced you to change—to grow in ways you never expected? And here’s the thing: how did you take those steps forward? Or, if you haven’t yet, what’s stopping you? What would it take for you to lean into that experience and let it shape you into something stronger?

Steven

Look, growth isn’t about avoiding the bad stuff; it’s about learning to rise through it. It’s about taking the pieces of your story—each challenge, each failure, each small victory—and weaving them into something meaningful. And that’s what Nami does. She pushes through her fears, her pain, and her doubts to find a way forward that’s uniquely hers. And I think that’s something we can all learn from.

Steven

Now, as we wrap up, let me leave you with this: What would it look like for you—right now—to start embracing both your challenges and your dreams? Maybe it’s a small step, maybe it’s just a shift in how you see yourself, but let yourself take that step. Trust me, the path isn’t linear, it’s not always pretty, but it is worth it. Whether it’s starting to rebuild trust, redefining your goals, or discovering the strength you didn’t know you had, remember—like Nami does—you’ve got more courage than you think.

Steven

And on that note, thank you for taking this journey with me today. Keep healing, keep trusting, and, as always, keep watching anime. I’ll see you next time.